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Brutalismus 3000 interview: New visions, ideas and sound

By: Amanda Sandström Beijer

Photos by: Sven Marquardt

Brutalismus 3000 photographed by Sven Marquardt
Victoria Vassiliki Daldas and Theo Zeitner of Brutalismus 3000. Photo: Sven Marquardt

Getting sick of the unstylish rave scene, Victoria and Theo of Brutalismus 3000 don’t seek approval, but arena, releasing their sound unfiltered. Playful Magazine gets the story on where they started, their influences and what it means to be real.

This article is available as a cover feature, shot by Sven Marquardt, in the latest issue of Playful Magazine. Order your copy here.

Victoria Vassiliki Daldas and Theo Zeitner are the people behind Brutalismus 3000. Meeting each other after having swiped left on Tinder, their first date was at a bar in Neukölln, Berlin at 02 in the morning. Quickly discovering that they referred to similar music.

Going back in time, Theo started producing music around 10 years ago, but wasn’t very serious about his production at the start.

”My friends got into minimal techno, and I hated that. I thought I could do that shit in a minute on my iPad in Garage Band and wondered why they listened to it. And as I wanted to prove to myself and them that the music was stupid, I started making it myself and suddenly I really enjoyed it and invested in real equipment”, Theo says.

Before this point, Theo was listening to punk, which he still does, but also Kanye West and other rap. Things he doesn’t listen to as much today, due to the meaning behind the lyrics.

Victoria on the other hand used to play the piano, although according to her, it was ’quite unsuccessful’. She was also in the school choir, mostly as a way of polishing her grades as they weren’t great at that time.

”I was into Rn’B and loved Avril Lavigne and Tupac, and as a teenager I enjoyed writing a lot of lyrics myself”, she says.

When they moved to Berlin they started going to raves more frequently and after having met each other it didn’t take long until they discovered that their ideas of what they wanted to create were connected.

”One of the first things we started talking about on our date was music and especially D.A.F (Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft), which is one of our main favorite bands”, Theo says.

”What they did in the ’70s and the way they viewed music was very new. All other punk bands at that time had a different approach. They were more violent, faster, and more aggressive”, Victoria fills in.

Brutalismus 3000 photographed by Sven Marquardt
Victoria Vassiliki Daldas and Theo Zeitner of Brutalismus 3000. Photo: Sven Marquardt

Brutalismus 3000 genre is described as ’Nu-gabber-post-techno-punk’ although Theo doesn’t necessarily want to put them in any specific box.

”I don’t see myself belonging to any subculture today. Not even the rave subculture actually”, Theo says.

The start of Brutalismus 3000 was born in 2019, before the pandemic hit.

”I grew up speaking 3 different languages, including one Slavic; which we thought would be fun to incorporate to our music, as it sounds pretty hard and aggressive”, Victoria says.

”It’s funny looking back on it since we had such low expectations. Places we thought would be amazing to play at back then, are places we turn down today as they are too small.”

As you speak with them you get a strong sense that they are very much in sync with one another. Although their characteristics differ strongly.

”My ADHD makes it difficult for me to remember things, meanwhile Victoria is more structured. I also have this side to me of always trusting people’s intention, and that they want the best for me. I just don’t understand people who want something bad for you. So, when people have been asking how much we earn, I just tell them straight out. And Vicky would never talk about something like that. She’s much more careful”, Theo says.

”I also come from a different background. My mother grew up in socialism, and I was brought up with not even leaving a pen on the table because someone might steal it. That’s how I’ve been brought up. Although I have worked with it to be more chilled.” Victoria says and continues;

”As we’ve been in the industry now for some years, I’m always very careful about who we’re working with, always questioning, and then we’re always discussing. I’m always rethinking stuff until the end, meanwhile he’s more trusting. But it’s creating a good balance for us.”

”Vicky is also very superstitious. She would never put her bag on the ground or cross someone’s arm when cheering and has a lot of ideas on what could bring bad luck. She will tell me to not say stuff as it could mean we would die tomorrow”, Theo says laughing;

”And now I’m also superstitious, especially when I’m scared, like when I’m flying. I have this procedure with Vicky's nails to feel more at ease.”

Watch the full Brutalismus 3000 interview here or listen on Spotify.

The procedure Theo refers to is pressing on one nail at a time until he pressed all ten of them. Prioritizing fun and each other is very important for both of them when it comes to work-life-balance.

”When people try to push us to take on more gigs, we’re just saying no. We’re not interested in living that kind of hectic life, and as we’re together we want to prioritize each other as well.”

”It’s funny though, as we kind of skipped the whole part of doing small gigs. The first gig we ever did was in Paris in front of 2000 people. And when you do a few big gigs, you’re not reliant to play all the time to be okay money-wise. Some DJ’s who’re doing 15-20 shows; I know what they earn and I simply don’t understand what they’re doing with all that money.”

”We would for example never take a gig on Halloween, no matter how big the fee would be. Because that’s Theo’s favorite holiday”, Victoria fills in.

”If I would ever play on Halloween, that means I’ve left, that I’m just an empty shell. Otherwise, I would never do that.” I just want to be at home and watch ’80s horror movies. It’s an important day for me.”

Films also inspire them when creating music. As one could know, their song ’Blade’ is for instance inspired by the film with the same name.

”We had to name it ’Blade’ so people don’t think that we’re not aware of where the inspiration came from. There’s also ’Crash96’ referring to Cronenberg’s movie Crash. But as I’m also studying film, it’s connected with my interest in a broader perspective. Even more than music sometimes.”, Theo says and continues;

”I think people who create music should think about what they bring to the world that hasn’t been brought here before. Of course, you can do like EDM and mainstream music, which I sometimes even like, actually. But when we create music, like when we got into gabber music, we were excited about the fact that we don’t really hear gabber music with punk, good female vocals and feminist lyrics.”

”Most of the time the vocals are really sexist. There are some songs, by other artists, that we enjoy but we just don’t play them because the lyrics are too shitty”, Vicky says and continues;

”Although it’s the same in any industry, you want to find a loophole you can evolve in. We got a bit bored of the rave scene at some point. We started finding it a bit overused and wanted to bring a new spark to it.”